Lou and Lennon

[who am I]

I know. Just trying to show that, in general, lennon had a hippy-flower-softy way while Lou had a hard-realistic-dark one.

Not quite, Travis: Lennon gave up the hippy flower style after just a season and declared 'the dream is over' - while Lou wrote some of his most sensitive songs about love and stuff...
Lisa, sure Lou digged the Beatles, he was once asked about them and said they were at least capable to write a tune. I guess he meant the lyrics was not up to the same high level.

[andy]

Not quite, Travis: Lennon gave up the hippy flower style after just a season and declared 'the dream is over' - while Lou wrote some of his most sensitive songs about love and stuff...

Lennon sang 'the dream is over' in his - by the way really great - song 'God' , released in 1970 (John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band).
He sang 'Imagine all the people living live in peace' in 'Imagine', released in 1971(Imagine).

I'd say 'Imagine' would be the culmination of the 'Hippy flower power style', so I don't think he gave up on it after just one season all together.

Thinking about it, Lennon strikes me as a pop-music oddity.

I really like the young John Lennon - that mixture of Elvis Presley, Marlon Brando and James Dean with a very dry sense of humor. I think that for a while there he was actually the coolest guy in rock 'n' roll, with an incredible dose of sex-appeal before there even was such a thing.

Than Dylan tells The Beatles they should 'use' their platform and sing about more than just 'I want to hold your hand' and Lennon proves to be quite skilfull in writing lyrics, e.g. 'In my life', 'Help', 'Nowhere man'.

Than they gradually get into that psychadelic thing, which is where I get off.
Sure here there you've got a good song - 'Come Together', 'Revolution', ... - but a lot of the stuff I just can't relate to.
I have absolutely no idea why I would ever listen again to 'Being for the benefit of mr. Kite', for example.

And after The Beatles split up Lennon kept writing good songs every once in a while - 'God', 'Working class hero', 'Mind games', 'Jealous guy' - but he gradually became sort of a relic, a thing of the past.

So, speaking for myself, I'd say you could pull out of his back catalogue a double disc with Beatles tunes and one with his solo-compositions that are absolutely killer. And that really makes him a great artist.
But I do feel that a lot of what The Beatles did is horribly over-rated. Well, for that matter, a lot of what was done in the '60s gets ridiculous overratings just because it was done in the '60s.

[Travis]

John Lennon - that mixture of Elvis Presley, Marlon Brando and James Dean

And please don't forget Steve McQueen, Dean Martin and Bogart...

[candy]

I'm just watching the documentary "Once upon a time in New York" where John Cale says:

"You know.. when Woodstock happened, I mean we were happy that everybody got stuck in the mud. The whole flower children thing was just silly. We were advocating giving everybody the drugs they wanted, and it wasn't weed."

[who am I]

"This celebration somehow gets me down
Especially when I see you're not around"

[Dstone5553]

I used to have another version of Lou doing Mother from some European TV show that's fantastic.

[who am I]

That was probably the JOHN LENNON TRIBUTE, PIER HEAD, LIVERPOOL 05.05.1990
Lou performed 'Mother' and 'Jealous Guy' - recorded by BBC.

[BadfingerLou]

they both have to big fans in germany in the city of bielefeld.
one loves lou - the other loves john.
they both love "jever"-beer.
the name of this friend of mine is george.
lou wrote "my friend george".
lennon never wrote a song about me ...
prost!

[who am I]

LOL, hilarious, no Lennon wrote exclusively songs about himself, anyway...Prost mein Freund

[andy]

lou wrote "my friend george".
lennon never wrote a song about me ...
prost!

No, but John actually had a friend called George, while Lou probably just made the whole thing up! :p

[BadfingerLou]

yes, and lou once had a friend, who's name was "john"!

and another fellow of lou made an album togther with john lennon: bowie's "young americans". and one song from that recording-session (on the bonus-track-version from ryko-disc) was "john, i'm only dancing (again)".

and don't forget the "velvet-nursery-rhyme", where lou sang: "now you got here john and me - we want no part of this, because we think this is REAL POTENTIAL SHIT!!"

time for another "jever"-beer. have to call my friend george for that now ...

[who am I]

And what about the line from "Crazy Feeling"

And I seen those suit 'n' tie Johns buy you one drink
then buy you some more, I had that -

Not to mention Bowie singing Never Let Me Down in a Lennon-like manner that get's my head spinning off...
could be the beer...I order one more cyber beer...

[BadfingerLou]

and on bowie's "hunky dory" there are two songs about lou and john.

"queen bitch" is dedicated to lou and the velvets -

and on "life on mars?" bowie sang:
"now the workers have struck for fame
'cause lennon's on sale again"

and now "jever" number two!
(thank god i'm leaving for a 2-weeks-holiday to egypt tonight ...)

[fljoe0]

Another New York guy I wonder if Lou knows well is Paul Simon. Does anyone remember Lou in Paul Simon's movie "One Trick Pony"? It's been a really long time since I've seen the movie and I don't think it is on dvd but if memory serves me, Lou played an asshole record producer (he probably really enjoyed that). Does anyone know if Paul Simon asked him to be in it or if Lou just happened to be cast in it?